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Given the fact that we're in the midst of studying Ephesians in our Wednesday night
bible study, it's quite timely that <a href="http://markdroberts.com/" target="_blank">Mark
Roberts</a> has begun blogging an address he gave to the PCUSA General Council. The
focus of his address is a study of Ephesians 4. <a href="http://markdroberts.com/?p=507" target="_blank">Part
3</a>, which was posted today, is a home run. I cannot say "amen" loudly
enough.
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In reaction to the perceived excesses of the church growth movement some have retreated
into a mindset that says numerical growth doesn't matter, only spiritual growth matters.
This is a false dichotomy. In fact, spiritual growth and vitality leads to numerical
growth. If it doesn't, then it is not true spiritual growth. True spiritual growth
is not just about learning doctrine, but about taking on the mission of God. Doctrinal
purity without a missional focus is a recipe for pharisitical self-righteousness.
True spiritual growth leads to numerical growth not through the latest techniques
or ministry fads, but through the body of Christ living out its faith with Christ-like
compassion and Holy Spirit-empowered boldness.
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Granted, numerical growth without spiritual growth is equally dangerous, but that
topic has been done to death by many others. My concern is that the church does not
overreact and become insular. As I commented during our previous Wednesday study on
church history, the church is a pendulum constantly swinging between extremes never
reaching equilibrium. As flawed human beings, that's a good thing. We need to keep
moving while hopefully minimizing the apex of our swings.
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Given the fact that we're in the midst of studying Ephesians in our Wednesday night
bible study, it's quite timely that &lt;a href="http://markdroberts.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Mark
Roberts&lt;/a&gt; has begun blogging an address he gave to the PCUSA General Council. The
focus of his address is a study of Ephesians 4. &lt;a href="http://markdroberts.com/?p=507" target="_blank"&gt;Part
3&lt;/a&gt;, which was posted today, is a home run. I cannot say &amp;quot;amen&amp;quot; loudly
enough.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In reaction to the perceived excesses of the church growth movement some have retreated
into a mindset that says numerical growth doesn't matter, only spiritual growth matters.
This is a false dichotomy. In fact, spiritual growth and vitality leads to numerical
growth. If it doesn't, then it is not true spiritual growth. True spiritual growth
is not just about learning doctrine, but about taking on the mission of God. Doctrinal
purity without a missional focus is a recipe for pharisitical self-righteousness.
True spiritual growth leads to numerical growth not through the latest techniques
or ministry fads, but through the body of Christ living out its faith with Christ-like
compassion and Holy Spirit-empowered boldness.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Granted, numerical growth without spiritual growth is equally dangerous, but that
topic has been done to death by many others. My concern is that the church does not
overreact and become insular. As I commented during our previous Wednesday study on
church history, the church is a pendulum constantly swinging between extremes never
reaching equilibrium. As flawed human beings, that's a good thing. We need to keep
moving while hopefully minimizing the apex of our swings.
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In our Wednesday night services for the past few months, we've been doing what I call
a cooperative bible study. That is, I try to act more as a facilitator than a teacher.
I really enjoy being a moderator for this kind of study, even though it is difficult
for me to keep my mouth shut sometimes. For the last couple weeks we've been studying
the "five-fold" (<a href="http://www.schooleyfiles.com/2008/06/five-fold-ministry-pastors-and-teachers.html" target="_blank">or
four-fold</a>) gifts in Ephesians 4. We encountered a situation where one bible dictionary
gave a definition of evangelist as "one who evangelizes"...not very helpful.
My comment at the time was "time to get a new bible dictionary". So I thought
I would post some bible dictionary recommendations.
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        <p>
On a budget (free online):
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          <p>
            <a href="http://www.studylight.org/enc/isb/" target="_blank">The International Standard
bible Encyclopedia</a> - This work has been revised and expanded (the current edition
is nearly 5,000 pages) but the first edition is still useful and it's available free
online.
</p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://www.studylight.org/dic/" target="_blank">Fausset's Bible Dictionary</a> -
Another good free online tool.
</p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
The basics:
</p>
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          <p>
            <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FNew-Ungers-Bible-Dictionary%2Fdp%2F0802490662%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214492286%26sr%3D8-1&amp;tag=redoakassofgo-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325">The
New Unger's Bible Dictionary</a>
            <img style="margin: 0px; border-top-style: none! important; border-right-style: none! important; border-left-style: none! important; border-bottom-style: none! important" height="1" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=redoakassofgo-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" width="1" border="0" /> -
This is a good tool to have. I reference it often.
</p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FVines-Expository-Dictionary-Testament-Words%2Fdp%2F078526020X%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214492408%26sr%3D1-6&amp;tag=redoakassofgo-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325">Vine's
Expository Dictionary</a>
            <img style="margin: 0px; border-top-style: none! important; border-right-style: none! important; border-left-style: none! important; border-bottom-style: none! important" height="1" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=redoakassofgo-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" width="1" border="0" /> -
Older and not as detailed as Unger's, but still quite useful.
</p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMounces-Complete-Expository-Dictionary-Testament%2Fdp%2F0310248787%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214492558%26sr%3D1-1&amp;tag=redoakassofgo-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325">Mounce's
Complete Expository Dictionary</a>
            <img style="margin: 0px; border-top-style: none! important; border-right-style: none! important; border-left-style: none! important; border-bottom-style: none! important" height="1" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=redoakassofgo-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" width="1" border="0" /> -
I don't personally have a copy of this work yet, but it's been <a href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/?p=1571" target="_blank">recommended</a> by
a number of people as "Vine's for the 21st century".
</p>
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        <p>
If I've missed a bible dictionary that you've found particularly helpful, leave a
comment.
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      <title>Bible Study Tools - Bible Dictionaries</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;
In our Wednesday night services for the past few months, we've been doing what I call
a cooperative bible study. That is, I try to act more as a facilitator than a teacher.
I really enjoy being a moderator for this kind of study, even though it is difficult
for me to keep my mouth shut sometimes. For the last couple weeks we've been studying
the &amp;quot;five-fold&amp;quot; (&lt;a href="http://www.schooleyfiles.com/2008/06/five-fold-ministry-pastors-and-teachers.html" target="_blank"&gt;or
four-fold&lt;/a&gt;) gifts in Ephesians 4. We encountered a situation where one bible dictionary
gave a definition of evangelist as &amp;quot;one who evangelizes&amp;quot;...not very helpful.
My comment at the time was &amp;quot;time to get a new bible dictionary&amp;quot;. So I thought
I would post some bible dictionary recommendations.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
On a budget (free online):
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.studylight.org/enc/isb/" target="_blank"&gt;The International Standard
bible Encyclopedia&lt;/a&gt; - This work has been revised and expanded (the current edition
is nearly 5,000 pages) but the first edition is still useful and it's available free
online.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.studylight.org/dic/" target="_blank"&gt;Fausset's Bible Dictionary&lt;/a&gt; -
Another good free online tool.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
The basics:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FNew-Ungers-Bible-Dictionary%2Fdp%2F0802490662%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214492286%26sr%3D8-1&amp;amp;tag=redoakassofgo-20&amp;amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325"&gt;The
New Unger's Bible Dictionary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px; border-top-style: none! important; border-right-style: none! important; border-left-style: none! important; border-bottom-style: none! important" height="1" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=redoakassofgo-20&amp;amp;l=ur2&amp;amp;o=1" width="1" border="0" /&gt; -
This is a good tool to have. I reference it often.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FVines-Expository-Dictionary-Testament-Words%2Fdp%2F078526020X%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214492408%26sr%3D1-6&amp;amp;tag=redoakassofgo-20&amp;amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325"&gt;Vine's
Expository Dictionary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px; border-top-style: none! important; border-right-style: none! important; border-left-style: none! important; border-bottom-style: none! important" height="1" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=redoakassofgo-20&amp;amp;l=ur2&amp;amp;o=1" width="1" border="0" /&gt; -
Older and not as detailed as Unger's, but still quite useful.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMounces-Complete-Expository-Dictionary-Testament%2Fdp%2F0310248787%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214492558%26sr%3D1-1&amp;amp;tag=redoakassofgo-20&amp;amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325"&gt;Mounce's
Complete Expository Dictionary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px; border-top-style: none! important; border-right-style: none! important; border-left-style: none! important; border-bottom-style: none! important" height="1" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=redoakassofgo-20&amp;amp;l=ur2&amp;amp;o=1" width="1" border="0" /&gt; -
I don't personally have a copy of this work yet, but it's been &lt;a href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/?p=1571" target="_blank"&gt;recommended&lt;/a&gt; by
a number of people as &amp;quot;Vine's for the 21st century&amp;quot;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
If I've missed a bible dictionary that you've found particularly helpful, leave a
comment.
&lt;/p&gt;
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A couple weeks ago the General Superintendent of the Assemblies of God, Thomas Trask,
resigned his position with two years left on his term. Before taking office in Springfield,
Rev. Trask was my pastor. I have the utmost respect for him and I pray God continues
to bless him in whatever he does. At the General Council meetings next month, new
leadership will be elected. I don't think it's hyperbole to say that this is a significant
turning point in our fellowship. It goes without saying that we need to be in prayer
regarding this decision over the next two weeks.
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Some of the "young guns" (younger than me, at least chronologically) in the A/G including <a href="http://bradleach.typepad.com/" target="_blank">Brad
Leach</a> from <a href="http://www.churchoftheking.net/" target="_blank">Church of
the King</a> in Berkley have started the <a href="http://futureag.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">FutureAG</a> blog
to discuss this decision. While it's advertised as a temporary blog just for the next
few weeks, I really hope it turns into something more. The interaction I've seen on
this blog so far has been very positive, thoughtful, and encouraging. Case in
point, yesterday's post by Paul Stewart entitled <a href="http://futureag.blogspot.com/2007/07/identity-crisis.html" target="_blank">Identity
Crisis</a> and the ensuing comments. While the conversation is primarily among pastors,
feel free to at least eavesdrop.
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      <title>The Future of the A/G</title>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:09:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
A couple weeks ago the General Superintendent of the Assemblies of God, Thomas Trask,
resigned his position with two years left on his term. Before taking office in Springfield,
Rev. Trask was my pastor. I have the utmost respect for him and I pray God continues
to bless him in whatever he does. At the General Council meetings next month, new
leadership will be elected. I don't think it's hyperbole to say that this is a significant
turning point in our fellowship. It goes without saying that we need to be in prayer
regarding this decision over the next two weeks.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Some of the "young guns" (younger than me, at least chronologically) in the A/G including &lt;a href="http://bradleach.typepad.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Brad
Leach&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://www.churchoftheking.net/" target="_blank"&gt;Church of
the King&lt;/a&gt; in Berkley have started the &lt;a href="http://futureag.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"&gt;FutureAG&lt;/a&gt; blog
to discuss this decision. While it's advertised as a temporary blog just for the next
few weeks, I really hope it turns into something more. The interaction I've seen on
this blog so far has been&amp;nbsp;very positive, thoughtful, and encouraging. Case in
point, yesterday's post by Paul Stewart entitled &lt;a href="http://futureag.blogspot.com/2007/07/identity-crisis.html" target="_blank"&gt;Identity
Crisis&lt;/a&gt; and the ensuing comments. While the conversation is primarily among pastors,
feel free to at least eavesdrop.
&lt;/p&gt;
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Once again Scot McKnight simply knocks one out of the ballpark, this time in <a title="a post" href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2007/05/getting_the_gos.html" target="_blank">a
post</a> on Christianity Today's <a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/" target="_blank">Out
of Ur</a> blog. Be sure to read the comments, too. Good stuff.
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Once again Scot McKnight simply knocks one out of the ballpark, this time in &lt;a title="a post" href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2007/05/getting_the_gos.html" target="_blank"&gt;a
post&lt;/a&gt; on Christianity Today's &lt;a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/" target="_blank"&gt;Out
of Ur&lt;/a&gt; blog. Be sure to read the comments, too. Good stuff.
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David Wayne, the <a href="http://jollyblogger.typepad.com/" target="_blank">Jolly
Blogger</a>, has written a few posts recently that tie in nicely to our current Sunday
series, "Loving Like Jesus". I thought I'd pass them along.
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        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <a href="http://jollyblogger.typepad.com/jollyblogger/2007/04/good_friday_chr.html" target="_blank">Good
Friday Christianity vs. A Christianity that Condemns</a>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://jollyblogger.typepad.com/jollyblogger/2007/04/why_we_havent_c.html" target="_blank">Why
We Haven't Changed the World</a>
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        <p>
David is one of the more thoughtful and gracious "Godbloggers" out there, yet he's
not above stirring the pot every now and then. My kind of guy.
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      <title>Why We Haven't Changed the World</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:29:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
David Wayne, the &lt;a href="http://jollyblogger.typepad.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Jolly
Blogger&lt;/a&gt;, has written a few posts recently that tie in nicely to our current Sunday
series, "Loving Like Jesus". I thought I'd pass them along.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://jollyblogger.typepad.com/jollyblogger/2007/04/good_friday_chr.html" target="_blank"&gt;Good
Friday Christianity vs. A Christianity that Condemns&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://jollyblogger.typepad.com/jollyblogger/2007/04/why_we_havent_c.html" target="_blank"&gt;Why
We Haven't Changed the World&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
David is one of the more thoughtful and gracious "Godbloggers" out there, yet he's
not above stirring the pot every now and then. My kind of guy.
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As <a href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/" target="_blank">Scot McKnight</a> said, <a title="David Fitch" href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/2007/02/some-reasons-why-lone-senior-pastor.html" target="_blank">David
Fitch</a> gets it. I think so too. 
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      <title>The end of the &amp;quot;pastor as CEO&amp;quot; model</title>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:57:47 GMT</pubDate>
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As &lt;a href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/" target="_blank"&gt;Scot McKnight&lt;/a&gt; said, &lt;a title="David Fitch" href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/2007/02/some-reasons-why-lone-senior-pastor.html" target="_blank"&gt;David
Fitch&lt;/a&gt; gets it. I think so too.&amp;nbsp;
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Rick Meigs has a <a href="http://blindbeggar.org/?p=413" target="_blank">good post</a> this
morning over at <a href="http://blindbeggar.org/" target="_blank">The Blind Beggar</a> about
the tyranny of personal preferences. For too long Christians have considered the church
service to be their refuge from the outside world, just like the "hideout" most little
boys have growing up. It's a place to escape, to feel comfortable and safe, to be
reassured and "fed". It's a place where we can pretend we're superheroes without actually
having to fight any monsters. We've turned the church service into a clubhouse meeting.
</p>
        <p>
Don't misunderstand, we need to be safe and reassured. We need to be comforted and
healed. The church (i.e. the body of Christ) needs to perform that function. The church
service (i.e. the main meeting where we invite the community to show up) should be
a time when we set aside our personal preferences and do our best to communicate the
Gospel in terms and forms that the "uninitiated" can grasp. Of course, that assumes
that we actually care enough to invite the community to show up.
</p>
        <p>
Rick quotes <em><a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=43599&amp;netp_id=429918&amp;event=ESRCN&amp;item_code=WW" target="_blank">Breaking
the Missional Code</a></em>* which is a book I've just finished reading. There's a
whole lot there to digest, but I'll probably reference it more in future posts. I
highly recommend the book to anyone who is concerned about the growth of the Kingdom
of God in North America. We no longer have the "home field advantage" trying to reach
our community. We're living in post-Christian society and we need to start acting
like it.
</p>
        <p>
* You may be asking "what in the world does 'missional' mean?" You could just
read the book to find out but if you just can't wait, check out Rick's other site, <a href="http://www.friendofmissional.org/" target="_blank">Friend
of Missional</a>.
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      <title>Preference or Purpose</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:38:32 GMT</pubDate>
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Rick Meigs has a &lt;a href="http://blindbeggar.org/?p=413" target="_blank"&gt;good post&lt;/a&gt; this
morning over at &lt;a href="http://blindbeggar.org/" target="_blank"&gt;The Blind Beggar&lt;/a&gt; about
the tyranny of personal preferences. For too long Christians have considered the church
service to be their refuge from the outside world, just like the "hideout" most little
boys have growing up. It's a place to escape, to feel comfortable and safe, to be
reassured and "fed". It's a place where we can pretend we're superheroes without actually
having to fight any monsters. We've turned the church service into a clubhouse meeting.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Don't misunderstand, we need to be safe and reassured. We need to be comforted and
healed. The church (i.e. the body of Christ) needs to perform that function. The church
service (i.e. the main meeting where we invite the community to show up) should be
a time when we set aside our personal preferences and do our best to communicate the
Gospel in terms and forms that the "uninitiated" can grasp. Of course, that assumes
that we actually care enough to invite the community to show up.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Rick quotes &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=43599&amp;amp;netp_id=429918&amp;amp;event=ESRCN&amp;amp;item_code=WW" target="_blank"&gt;Breaking
the Missional Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;* which is a book I've just finished reading. There's a
whole lot there to digest, but I'll probably reference it more in future posts.&amp;nbsp;I
highly recommend the book to anyone who is concerned about the growth of the Kingdom
of God in North America. We no longer have the "home field advantage" trying to reach
our community. We're living in post-Christian society and we need to start acting
like it.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
*&amp;nbsp;You may be asking "what in the world does 'missional' mean?" You could just
read the book to find out but if you just can't wait, check out Rick's other site, &lt;a href="http://www.friendofmissional.org/" target="_blank"&gt;Friend
of Missional&lt;/a&gt;.
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Anyone who has read my blog or attended our church for any length of time knows that
one of my big pet peeves is radical individualism. <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%202:18;&amp;version=31;" target="_blank">God
created us as dependent creatures</a>, to live any other way is to rebel against God's
design. God himself exists in a state of radical community, something we call the
Trinity. He has called His people to be a radical community, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus%202:14;&amp;version=50;" target="_blank">special
people</a> that <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%204:32-35;&amp;version=31;" target="_blank">live
differently</a> than the world around us. The church MUST become a transformed community
living a true alternative lifestyle as the Body of Christ or it isn't really the church
at all and will never have the impact on the world that God intends. <a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/" target="_blank">Dan
Edelen</a> began a series yesterday on being the Body of Christ and continues it today
with a <a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2006/10/being-the-body-how-to-forge-real-community-part-1.html" target="_blank">great
post</a> on forging real community. As I've mentioned before, <a href="http://www.markdroberts.com/" target="_blank">Mark
Roberts</a> is also <a href="http://www.markdroberts.com/htmfiles/resources/whatisachurch.htm" target="_blank">blogging
on the meaning of "church"</a>. I highly recommend keeping an eye on both of these
series.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:36:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Anyone who has read my blog or attended our church for any length of time knows that
one of my big pet peeves is radical individualism. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%202:18;&amp;amp;version=31;" target="_blank"&gt;God
created us as dependent creatures&lt;/a&gt;, to live any other way is to rebel against God's
design. God himself exists in a state of radical community, something we call the
Trinity. He has called His people to be a radical community,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus%202:14;&amp;amp;version=50;" target="_blank"&gt;special
people&lt;/a&gt; that &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%204:32-35;&amp;amp;version=31;" target="_blank"&gt;live
differently&lt;/a&gt; than the world around us. The church MUST become a transformed community
living a true alternative lifestyle as the Body of Christ or it isn't really the church
at all and will never have the impact on the world that God intends. &lt;a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Dan
Edelen&lt;/a&gt; began a series yesterday on being the Body of Christ and continues it today
with a &lt;a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2006/10/being-the-body-how-to-forge-real-community-part-1.html" target="_blank"&gt;great
post&lt;/a&gt; on forging real community.&amp;nbsp;As I've mentioned before, &lt;a href="http://www.markdroberts.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Mark
Roberts&lt;/a&gt; is also &lt;a href="http://www.markdroberts.com/htmfiles/resources/whatisachurch.htm" target="_blank"&gt;blogging
on the meaning of "church"&lt;/a&gt;. I highly recommend keeping an eye on both of these
series.
&lt;/p&gt;
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Mark Roberts has been blogging a great series called <a href="http://www.markdroberts.com/htmfiles/resources/whatisachurch.htm" target="_blank">What
is a Church?</a> He started with a theological discussion of the NT definition
of "church" (ekklesia), but has now begun to address the more practical applications
of the definition. <a href="http://www.markdroberts.com/htmfiles/resources/whatisachurch.htm#oct1906" target="_blank">Today's
post</a> was particularly good. He focuses on the idea that the church is really meant
be "an alternative society, a thumbnail sketch of the kingdom of God." I like this
definition. As Dr. Roberts notes, however, we rarely achieve that goal.
</p>
        <p>
          <a href="http://schooleyfiles.blogspot.com/2006/10/problem-of-subculture-and-missional.html" target="_blank">Keith
Schooley recently blogged</a> about the issue of the Christian subculture. What's
the difference between a subculture and an alternative society? I think of a subculture
in mathematical terms. A <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset" target="_blank">subset</a> in
mathematics is a grouping that retains some elements of the superset, but excludes
some elements. That is what the church has become, a subset of the larger culture.
We exclude (or claim to exclude) some elements of modern society like pornography
and abortion, yet retain many of the elements of modern society such as materialism
and radical individualism.
</p>
        <p>
An alternative society, on the other hand, is more like an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersection_%28set_theory%29" target="_blank">intersection</a>.
There are still common elements, but there are differences that make us unique not
by what we exclude but by what we include. For example, we share cultural elements
such as food or the arts but we should be unique in our Kingdom focus. Characteristics
such as our devotion to God, our devotion to brotherly love, the fruit of the Spirit,
and our life priorities (i.e how we spend our time and money) should be the unique
characteristics that define our society.
</p>
        <p>
Being a subculture is easy. In fact, everyone is a part of at least one subculture
whether they realize it or not. Being an alternative society, however, takes conscious
effort. It's swimming upstream. That's what we're called by God to do. He hasn't called
us to add religion to our already over-stuffed lives, He has called us to be <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2012:1-2;&amp;version=31;" target="_blank">transformed</a>.
Not a subset of the existing culture, but an alternative to it.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:31:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Mark Roberts has been blogging a great series called &lt;a href="http://www.markdroberts.com/htmfiles/resources/whatisachurch.htm" target=_blank&gt;What
is a Church?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;He started with a theological discussion of the&amp;nbsp;NT definition
of "church" (ekklesia), but&amp;nbsp;has now begun to address the more practical applications
of&amp;nbsp;the definition.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.markdroberts.com/htmfiles/resources/whatisachurch.htm#oct1906" target=_blank&gt;Today's
post&lt;/a&gt; was particularly good. He focuses on the idea that the church is really meant
be "an alternative society, a thumbnail sketch of the kingdom of God." I like this
definition. As Dr. Roberts notes, however, we rarely achieve that goal.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://schooleyfiles.blogspot.com/2006/10/problem-of-subculture-and-missional.html" target=_blank&gt;Keith
Schooley recently blogged&lt;/a&gt; about the issue of the Christian subculture. What's
the difference between a subculture and an alternative society? I think of a subculture
in mathematical terms. A &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset" target=_blank&gt;subset&lt;/a&gt; in
mathematics is a grouping that retains some elements of the superset, but excludes
some elements. That is what the church has become, a subset of the larger culture.
We exclude (or claim to exclude) some elements of modern society like pornography
and abortion, yet retain many of the elements of modern society such as materialism
and radical individualism.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
An alternative society, on the other hand, is more like an &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersection_%28set_theory%29" target=_blank&gt;intersection&lt;/a&gt;.
There are still common elements, but there are differences that make us unique not
by what we exclude but by what we include. For example, we share cultural elements
such as food or the arts but we should be unique in our Kingdom focus. Characteristics
such as our devotion to God, our devotion to brotherly love, the fruit of the Spirit,
and our life priorities (i.e how we spend our time and money)&amp;nbsp;should be the unique
characteristics that define our society.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Being a subculture is easy. In fact, everyone is a part of at least one subculture
whether they realize it or not. Being an alternative society, however, takes conscious
effort. It's swimming upstream. That's what we're called by God to do. He hasn't called
us to add religion to our already over-stuffed lives, He has called us to be &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2012:1-2;&amp;amp;version=31;" target=_blank&gt;transformed&lt;/a&gt;.
Not a subset of the existing culture, but an alternative to it.
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